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every human being is a Creator and they are creating their life so it's not that
our thoughts are powerful it's that we are powerful and so when we focus on a
thought and we really hold that Focus that thought will manifest in our life
you are always being moved toward magnificence even when we're in
Breakdown stress and feel like we're suffering how are we on track when we're
in that moment well we are and that night that I talked about where
everything collapsed in a heap and and I was going to be broke my health was
really bad my relationships were in a mess my father had died really suddenly
he was young but if any of those things hadn't happened I would never ever have
discovered the secret should we be thinking more about our thoughts or our
feelings when it comes to manifesting and attracting abundance good question
you know what I would say I would say I think you got to have a dream the
school of greatness really yeah please welcome Le how welcome back everyone at
the school of greatness very excited about our guest we have the inspiring
Ronda burn in the house I'm so grateful that you're here oh thank you so much
for having me here we were just talking about this um right before that you have
sold with the secret almost 34 million copies are in print around the world
translated in over 50 languages um and I believe this is one
of your first down interviews in person since you did Oprah about 16 years ago
that's true you've done a few virtual interviews over Zoom we did one that got
millions of views around the world and um and you are back in person I'm so
grateful that you're here because there's definitely an energy about you
in person that brings a different element and I'm excited to talk about
the things some things that we covered in the previous interview but even more
because you have this incredible piece of art that you've come out with called
these manifestation cards uh the secret manifestation cards which are beautiful
and I want to go through a number of these today and talk about this but you
have received so much celebration over the last 16 years
since the secret came out yeah but you've also had criticism of the secret
and what this is yeah and so for people that don't know what the secret is if
they didn't see our previous interview and this is their first time hearing
about you and it's their first time saying what is the law of attraction and
the secret right can you explain what the Law of Attraction and manifesting
actually is in simple terms before we dive in deeper sure GE it would be
interesting to say what interesting to say how I describe it now after all
these years um
basically every not basically actually every human being is a
Creator and they are creating their life and we don't
know for many of us we did not know that that was the case and we are creating
our life through our thoughts so it's not that our thoughts are powerful it's
that we are powerful and so when we focus on a thought and we really hold
that Focus that thought will manifest in our life and so we create our own life
through our thoughts and through the mind the Mind our mind is super super
super powerful yeah for good or For Worse yes
so for example um we can talk about what we want and we will manifest that you
know and so some people they just see the abundance in the world you know
that's all that they see they don't they don't see any lack they just see
abundance and everything seems to go right for them everything falls into
place for them they invest in this and it's skyrockets and they they buy a
house in this place and that suburb goes crazy and it's like everything they
touch turns to Gold but it's because they have the mindset that is toward
wealth and abundance and they don't have a mindset toward luck and we have a lack
mindset when we say things like I'm broke I don't have
enough um I don't have enough to pay my bills and you see whatever we say is
what our life will be and so if we are saying I don't have enough money then by
law of attraction we will not have enough money we will continue to not
have enough money so what we have to do is we need to speak about what we want
and we need to talk about for example if it's money or if it's health or if we're
not feeling really great then we can talk about what it feels like to be
really well instead of talking about not being well right because if we're
talking about not being well we're attracting more of that more of that
more of that right and so that's basically law of attraction I mean it is
so wonderful and it's so intricate and the more that
you the more that it becomes a part of your life the more you see the little
kind of twists and turns synchronicities yeah like for for example if if if
you're saying yeah I'm so overwhelmed there's just so much going on at the
moment and I can't get on top of things and I'm just
overwhelmed guess what guess what's coming more overwhelming more you know
so when we speak about things that are frustrating us that are overwhelming
that are stressing us out that we're in lack of when we speak about them or
we're constantly in a loop of thinking of those thoughts and then speaking them
to ourselves or to others what I'm hearing you say is it's
going to be a lot harder to get Beyond those strugg
then to speak in a different way or think in a different way is that what
I'm hearing you say that's what that's the case and in fact until we think
differently it won't change really it wouldn't matter all the action in the
world all the action in the world will not override a belief that we have and
usually when we speak for example if I'm saying I'm so overwhelmed so much is
happening and when we're saying I'm so overwhelmed we believe it like we're
saying it with conviction right and so the fact that we believe it it it's not
going to change we're going to keep more things are going to come more things are
going to come and even if someone let's say they they did work hard for a long
time and they're feeling this overwhelmed and all of a sudden they
started to make a lot more money but it's not going to change the overwhelm
if they keep thinking it that's right so more money might come because you spent
more time in this world and worked hard and it's just your time to make more
right but you still might say well I'm still overwhelmed it's not enough right
this not enough feeling even though you have more y you're still stressed and
overwhelmed you're still that's why you see people with money some people with
money who aren't fulfilled or happy they're still overwhelmed that's right
yeah so how do we shift it so that when more comes our way we're
actually not feeling more overwhelmed but more in abundance and and grateful
for that it's so simple it's so easy we just have to talk about think about what
we want and do we want to feel overwhelmed and no we don't so what do
what do you want I want all of the success but I want it to be effortless
and easy and I want to have lots of spare time and I want to really be
enjoying it and I want like talk about what you want and talk about what you
want until you have what you want when people talk about what they don't want
consistently what typically happens they get that that's what they get more of
what they don't want yeah they get more of what they don't want if we could just
talk about what we want our life would be
incredible incredible
amazing spectacular that's it just to talk about
but we are so we have a world that's very um beautiful but orientated towards
drama and you know news is negative and uh so you know it's it's challenging for
people but we're all in it together yes because we're all dealing with the mind
and the mind that might be delivering a whole lot of negative thoughts but not
one of us it's not harder for one or easier for another we all have this mind
that can be like a flat mate and chatter chatter chatter non-stop chatter keep
going on you know um so we all we're all dealing with that and the mind it's just
a uh it's just a program it's not an entity it's just a program and so
through I think because certainly through my experience through the secret
we you can to totally train your mind to be positive so that it is not leaning
toward the ne negative all of the time and positive is just what you want right
right when someone is thinking or speaking about what they want does that
mean that they are in lack of it or how do they speak about it where it's not
from a place of lack right um it's a good question because me like I want
this I want this but I don't have it so how do we speak about it where we're in
gratitude and positive around it as opposed to I really want this thing but
it's not my life right now but I want it yeah but the problem is you just
canceled out the manifestation when you said but it's not in my life right now
ah yeah because if you if you're saying that I you know I well you could say it
like this I would really love to have this it's a little bit softer right than
I want but you but to manifest something that you to deliberately manifest you
have to want it but then you can't have any thoughts of well it's not here yet
because the the moment you say it's not here yet what does law of attraction do
it's not here yet and it's constantly not here yet yeah so say so say this
again how do we really manifest something we we put it out there we
speak it or we think it but then we detach from it yeah and you know here's
the thing we so don't realize our own amazing power that we can just ask for
something and it will be given to now here's what here's what the
criticism online is for the secret or the law of attraction or anyone talking
about manifesting okay this is what I'll see people and this is typically people
in lack or maybe people with more of a negative frustration because they don't
have what they want they will say or these are comments that I'll see you
can't just think something and expect it to appear without putting in the hard
work without action without consistency it's just the world just doesn't work
like that when you see comments like that or people say
this how would you respond to someone saying thinking that or saying that well
I don't um I always kind of feel that everybody has the right to think what
they want and believe what they want and I I know it's not the
case um I remember Lester levenson said something so incredible it was a
wonderful teacher he's not alive anymore um but he was very simple in the way
that he talked and he he told these students that if you want something I
could lock you up in a room and padlock that room and you ask for that and you
know you have it right you know you have it now and it will come really yeah it
will come and nothing in this world can stop us
so wow right what are some examples in your life where You' you've thought or
spoken about something you desired or wanted and it has come effortlessly and
or maybe an example of people that have written about their success stories is
there anything you can think of right um or maybe for a long time they'd
struggled in manifesting or attracting what they wanted but they started to
apply this and really believed it and that thing came to them right well when
I did a book signing um and I had I got to talk to all of these different people
and every single person at that book signing told me about how their life had
completely changed wow and what was amazing was so somebody would say that
they wanted to have they were working I don't know cleaning a bank or
something and they wanted to have their own Sound Studio
video and that is what they decided to manifest and they visualized and
visualized and they felt it and they wouldn't allow any thoughts of Doubt to
enter their mind and they are now running one of the top sound studios in
La wow but not just that they met their perfect partner they bought their dream
house they have you know two children or they travel every every single thing
that they wanted they received and that was what
was so amazing about all of these people when I was signing books it wasn't just
one thing in their life but these people were amazing they did gratitude all of
the time or they did affirmations all of the time and they had a complete change
within themselves you know to be be
kind you know to other people and so they would think positively they were
aware when negative thoughts came and they would stop them in their tracks and
so for me I think the biggest manifestation for me was the
secret yeah because I W I was um a mother of two children in
Melbourne Australia I
had this night where Henny peny the sky fell in everything in my life completely
collapsed right and I had a huge Awakening that night pardon me and
realized how realized all of this and how
incredible we are and what we can do and what Mastery we have over the world and
there and then I I looked out at the world and I'm like no one knows this no
one knows this and so I was determined that I would find a way to take this to
the world I had no idea what shape or form it would take or or but that night
I determined that that is what I would do and So eventually a whole team were
gathered I had a production company at that point and everybody might think oh
if you had a production company it's so easy for you to make a documentary aha
but let me tell you ah there's a snag I was $2 million in
debt really that production company was $2 million in debt and my accountant
told me you're going to be broke in 30 days and lose everything lose
everything and to this day I don't know how it didn't happen I do know because I
didn't allow that thought I only allowed the thought of taking this to the world
and nothing else mattered wow but getting this out into the world
and so um yeah but getting back to your point I would like I don't want to I
remember when um when I did time 100 and they had all the cameras that was an
interesting experience well were in caret and walking down and they were all
like what do you say to the naysayers and I said good for
them good for them because I think one problem we have in the world
is people wanting other people to believe what they believe you know I
discovered something incredible I absolutely know it's the case through my
experience through tens of thousands and millions of people's experience I know
it's the case but if there's somebody that isn't ready for this in their life
that's fine yeah right right that's totally fine because a lot of people
feel like they might be in a breakdown you know during that moment of your life
you have were struggling with you know business different things in your life
that were happening relationships it sounds like there were some challenges
boiling up yeah but then this wisdom within you came out and you decided to
act on it yeah and one of these cards again this is this is a beautiful piece
of art these cards these manifestation cards and I want people to get this
we'll have everything Linked UP And I've gone through a lot of these already
they're amazing I wish I would have created this this is incredible it says
um this card is great for this point of the conversation where it says
everything is always on track always no matter where you are in your life
currently and no matter how difficult things might appear to be in this moment
you are always being moved toward magnificence yes so why are we moved
toward magnificence even when we're in
Breakdown stress and feel like we're suffering how are we on track when we're
in that moment well we are though we are and and um I mean my if if if I use
myself as an example and sometime excuse me for doing that but that night that I
talked about where everything collapsed in a heap and I was going to be broke my
health was really bad my relationships were in a mess my father had died really
suddenly he was young and he had died really suddenly and my parents just had
the love affair that I've most beautiful love affair I've ever seen so my mother
was in terrible grief and so I had all of these things and then I was going to
be bust in 30 30 days wow so
I was able to turn all of that around and if that hadn't happened that night
and I've thought about all of the things that led up to that night and you know I
was making six do documentary films about m murder can you imagine wow yeah
a subject like and it was heart-wrenching cuz these were unsolved
murders and talking to the families and everything like that but it was
Perfection the way that all of these things lined up that I was making these
movies and then that I plummeted into grief with my father that I was so
stressed about my mother and all of these things led to this incredible
night on the 9th of September at 9:30 at night
and where everything fell in a heap and I we could all say oh but that was so
terrible all those things happened and not long before that you know years
before that I'd been fired and never imagined I'd ever get fired but if any
of those things hadn't happened I would never ever have discovered the secret
and so and I've been through lots of tough things since you know it hasn't
been perfect when no when we're human you know we're going to have
things um we're going to have things that will
come that will have us go further reach further be
more magnificent be more understanding be more compassionate you know when you
lose somebody really close to you you become very compassionate you know it
helps to in instill all of that and so absolutely I say that we are all on
track the first thing people always ask me is what do you feel about the world
do you know oh my gosh it's a mess and I just say everything's unfolding
perfectly it really and truly is it's unfolding perfectly and the same for
everybody and somebody might be going through a really rough
diagnosis but from where I am there's no end for any of us really
no we are we are Consciousness there's no end right right yeah so it's not
going to end even if there's a bad diagnosis in our in our life no this is
just this is just the vehicle this is just the car you know that we're that
we're using to travel around in the world and so
um yeah you this is one another one of your cards that I love that speaks into
this and I hope you don't mind me reading some of these this one says be
grateful for your challenges and and you wrote all of these from your wisdom
which I think is amazing it says be grateful for your challenges it's all of
the hard things and apparently negative things that happen to us which give us
deep desire to change our lives be grateful for them because they have
given you the strength and determination to manifest something different and you
will change your life and we were talking about this beforehand M about
how hard it is to watch people suffer how hard it is to watch people you care
about suffer people struggling in the world
that you don't know about and seeing suffering happening it's very
challenging to witness especially if you have a lot of compassion in your heart
if you have if you're empathetic towards individuals and if you felt pain
yourself yes yes very challenging he's very so how can people be grateful for
their challenges even though we know I know you know and
I know that our biggest challenges of our past got us to where we are today
yeah it's like those moments of complete pain and suffering taught me my biggest
lessons which have given me strength and courage today yeah but how can people
fully understand that when they have a horrible disease when they've lost
someone in their life too soon when there's an unfortunate war in their
individual life or in their country they're going bankrupt how can
we Empower people to be grateful for their challenges when there's so much
pain and suffering in their life because being
grateful is what will change their lives and so the difficulties that
they're facing I mean I we we have a lot of Stories on our website about people
with health challenges and how those those health challenges just disappeared
with love and GR itude so and just being grateful um being grateful is I mean
that that is just number one that's the fastest way for anybody to change their
life and I think if if you went out and asked most people they would be they
would say oh yeah I you know I know it's important to be grateful I think most
people would agree with that I grateful isn't spiritual or you know it's just
being grateful and I I just if you want to see the power that you have to change
your life really fast then start doing gratitude and it will just blow your
mind it changes everything again next card I just turned to it is gratitude is
the great multiplier set the universal forces in
your favor for tomorrow tonight before you fall asleep go back over your whole
day in your mind and replay each good moment feeling genuine gratitude for
each one this practice ensures the universe will make your tomorrow a day
filled with good moments and plenty to be grateful for for the next day as well
absolutely and when we are ungrateful when we are not in appreciation yeah for
the good the bad the ugly yeah what happens in our lives when we lack
gratitude we're taking things for granted which means things will be taken
from us oh
yeah yeah when we take things for granted they they get taken from us yeah
gratitude will hold absolutely everything to us in our life it will
just it will stick everything to us how do we be grateful when we're in
suffering or sadness or loss I know it's really hard but there's I guess there's
like there's like suffering sadness and loss
um that continues in that way or there suffering with
gratitude and the suffering gets easier right well there's sadness with
gratitude and the sadness begins to lift MH or the loss with
gratitude um I know because of my mother was so grief stricken with my father
having died and what brought brought my mother right out of it was
gratitude she was just so grateful that they got to have all of the years
together that they had that they had five children there were five of us and
they had five children that they had an incredible life that they loved they
loved each other was love at first sight and they loved and adored each other
until the last moment and she was so glad that he didn't suffer her she just
found so many things to be grateful for and this was the love of her life but
from doing that gratitude she just lifted herself up and began to live a
new life you know so so what happened was she reduced the you know reduced the
the pain the pain and the grief because eventually it will lessen but she and
she just felt absolute love for everything that uh I remember her saying
to me she's not alive now um but I remember her saying to me you know I've
had such a blessed life I was like wow you know you went through a war you went
through you know they didn't have like I came from very humble beginnings that my
parents did not have much and yet she saw her life as rich and blessed wow you
know that's beautiful a lot of it is p perspective you know
and if if we hold on to resentment or lack of forgiveness in our life yeah are
we able to manifest and attract beautiful things if we hold on to
resentment and anger and don't forgive I think we can still because
we're attracting every day so I think we can still attract things but will those
things bring us peace and happiness not when your heart is full of resentment
because if if if you full of resentment you what you will attract is more people
circumstances and events that will cause resentment oh my gosh yeah and and
that's just to show you that there's something to let go of you know
everything's very beautiful everything's beautiful can you explain that what does
that mean something to let go of so it's time to let go of that resentment that
because that original resentment is attached to some story or another that
we have about somebody did something to us and and and isn't it crazy that maybe
somebody did but but then that we would carry that for
years and by carrying it we keep attracting more of more and more of it
so that just it just shows you how all of those religious texts and everything
they got it really right yeah of course when they said not to you know love thy
enemy and all of those things that was said all of those things make total
sense don't carry those things with you well that lack of forgiveness that
resentment is an energetic Force that's almost attracting more of those things
and resisting the abundance of it peace and Harmony it when you're carrying and
holding on to that anger you're resisting peace yeah this is another
card again I'm just in the flow right here that says feelings are powerful
manifestors remember that worry attracts more worry just what you said
unhappiness attracts more unhappiness fear attracts more fear and remember
that Joy attracts more joy happiness attracts more happiness love attracts
more love yeah and it's the the times what I'm hearing you say the times when
it feels like it's the hardest is the times when it's the most important
that's right to be in a state of gratitude happiness and love y because
holding on to anger unhappiness and worry only attracts more of that more of
it and I think everybody experienced that right during Co yes right with all
of the worry about coid which then turned into fear and people became more
fearful more fearful and then things seemed to get worse and then more
fearful and things got worse and things got right
when you got the whole world when you got the when you have the majority of
the world in so much fear it's going to get worse it is yeah do we should we be
thinking more about our thoughts or our feelings when it comes to manifesting
and attracting abundance good question um you know what I would say I would say
for people to choose whatever's easiest for them uh I did thoughts I became very
aware of my thoughts but too I have to say I also became super super sensitive
to what I was feeling so much so that if I wasn't feeling good I would not open
my computer or any M why is that because if I'm on a
frequency if I'm on a frequency of frustration when I open up those
emails in comes frustration in comes problems and so I wouldn't
answer my phone if I wasn't feeling good and in fact the whole secret team knows
very well if you can't get Alla no for them I told I said to them if if you
don't feel well please don't touch the secret and if you had an argument with
your spouse or you got really you know fell out of bed the wrong
way take the day off don't because a secret unless you can shift out of it
quickly if you're unable to shift which they all can now but this was early days
so yeah so I I was really really careful to so feeling
good um I guess if you ask people how did they feel they might say oh yeah I
feel you know I feel pretty good or they but what I want to know is do you feel
happy because if you're not feeling happy then you're
unhappy like we could say there's just two you know too black and white right
happy or not happy exactly yeah and so if you're not
feeling and if you think about a time in your life when you felt happy and I
don't mean over excited or what I mean is just happy you know just feeling full
and happy and it's a great day and you're really positive and friendly
to everybody yeah that's happy and the other that kind of numb feeling or you
know it's another day kind of that's unhappiness I will say Ronda I I I grew
up not thinking that I was very smart or intelligent I struggled in school so I
had this belief that I wasn't smart enough for really anyone or anything and
I was never going to be able to figure things out cuz I had this kind of belief
based on on testing poorly just struggling in school was hard to read
and write and I just felt like everyone around me was smarter based on kind of
school system and tests now I learned later that that
wasn't true in other areas of life I had more Street smarts rather than School
smarts but I remember in my early 20s not thinking I had skills to go into a
career because I lacked success in school and early early on I was trying
to figure out how can I start to make money how can I get opportunities for me
when I don't have these skills and what I said to myself early on was I'm going
to bring joy and happiness everywhere I go when I would enter a room I would I
would think about okay this is a pathway to Joy and I would Smile as I would
cross the doorway I would cross it I would just open My Heart To Joy and
smile and enter a room and smile at people and when I would smile at other
people and just ask them a question how's your day they would smile back and
bring that mirroring energy in this next card here you say live in joy Humanity
needs your joy planet earth needs your joy the universe needs your joy and
that's why you are here find what brings you Joy start living it and you will
have a fulfilled you will you will have fulfilled your purpose and when I didn't
know what my purpose was I just said I'm going to be joy and
that is purpose and things started to unfold in my life Financial
opportunities people wanted to be around me more and they wanted to help me I
didn't know why except for that I brought joy and happiness so I want
people to know that you know when you bring joy even if you don't know what
direction you're heading or what what should I do next at the next chapter of
my life Joy unlocks opportunities like you said and I love this message in this
card here well that that was just such an Insight that you received you know
that's like a Divine message to you to do that because on the frequency of joy
is every that you could ever want really yeah
everything yeah it's not when you're in Anger
join but I mean people must notice you know I've this thing it's so obvious
look at your life and you can see how you're creating it like you get angry
and then one thing happens and then oh no something else happens and then
something else happens and something else you know I mean we've all had those
days a snowball bad things yeah and we just keep creating one after the other
yes but yeah on Joy because Joy is at the same frequency is love uh-huh so
it's right up there and it is incredible and that's why why in the secret
documentary and in the secret why I say nothing is more important than that you
feel good mhm feel because when you feel good you're on a feel-good frequency and
absolutely everything you encounter in the day all the people all the
circumstances all the events will be Feelgood they will be things that make
you feel even better even better even better even better so yeah there's a
quote from famous football coach in America his name is Vince Lombardi who
passed away but he was a he won a number of championships for the Green Bay
Packers I believe it was his quote that he would say to his uh you know his team
his his athletes was that you'll he what did he say he said either be fired up
with enthusiasm or you'll be fired with enthusiasm right it's like you either
got to bring the joy is what he was saying bring the energy bring the
positive excitement or you'll be fired passionately right because it's hard to
manifest or excel at a high Elite level in sports or something if you're not
bringing passion and joy in a in a loving happy Joyful Way it's hard to
maybe you could have some success but to kind of maintain that level of
opportunities and flow it's hard to do that without it right wow that's really
interesting cuz that's the same with life too mhm well right is really like
for for example when you're in joy you will manifest so
fast it's a really high frequency and you will manifest really really quickly
the thing is if you're in grief and despair it's very
slow right and that is so that's a protective mechanism for all of us um
because I had one time in my life where I hit uh depression
and uh because I was extremely worried about my daughter and I I just it was
just like this black cloud and I and I thought I have completely thought myself
to hear I could see all of the scary thoughts that I believed and that and
and I am here now here is where I am and I knew I was
here because to experience it so I could help people out of depression
and so so no one else created you to get there you cre you created yourself to
yeah because I just believed all these thoughts that I was all these scary
thoughts I was just believing them all and my daughter's fine and well today
you know they were just they were just all thoughts and and yeah so now um I
mean I'm really I I guess really fortunate I tried everything that I knew
which was to be grateful um and to think positive
thoughts so I tried thinking positive thoughts I could feel how weak they were
what do you mean by that like they they didn't have a lot of power behind them
so they were like I'm going to I'm happy but I'm not really happy not feeling it
because the Depression was you know it was strong and so what I did was I
decided to not resist the depression but to love
it tell me more and it melted away what what does that look like if someone's
going through three to six month I had to imagine this I had to I had to create
like a picture of this but I I kind of like I could feel the sensation of it
because depression is just a sensation all of my feelings are just Sensations
and they're not actually us they're just they're just a sensation but I could
would I I would get that sensation and I would feel that sensation of depression
and then I just imagined putting my arms around it and pulling it into me and
that was hard to do not pushing a way of resisting because that's what we do you
see we push away bad feelings CU we don't want to feel the pain right we
numb them we try to escape from them exactly we do everything but I did the
opposite because I knew what you resist persists right yes and so I just imagine
putting my arms around the moment that I did
it it just evaporated that whole feeling of depression and then a couple of hours
later it would started to come back not nearly that same level did it again in 3
days was totally gone how long had you've been experiencing the depression
for was this weeks was this months it was like couple of weeks couple of weeks
M and if you would have resisted it or numbed it or tried to escape it yeah I'd
still be there really yeah so what I'm hearing you say is that you embracing
the sadness the pain the grief the loss whatever it might be but embracing it
and and creating a relationship with it yeah as opposed to pushing it away yeah
allowed it to flow through you and leave you yeah it can't stay because nothing
negative can and remain in the face of Love wow love is the light and
everything negative you could say is darkness is one way to look at it and so
if there's love the darkness just disappears and that's why it just
evaporated was the most incredible feeling and I knew I'm experiencing this
so I can share it with people how does someone I mean the secret 34 million
plus copies you know tens of millions of people have watched the the movie all
the other books and programs and products that you have have been you
know sold by millions of people have been bought these
things how does someone believe they are worthy of great things the way you have
been able to do great things in your life and impact the world in such
a magnitude that you have done how can someone know and trust that something is
destined for them maybe it's not at this level but something is great as Destin
for them how do they know that and did you know this your entire life leading
up to this that something like this was supposed to happen no I didn't really no
but the moment I discovered it I knew it absolutely knew it I knew this is why
I was here I knew it with every fiber of my being yeah so but prior to that I
didn't I was um really ambitious okay you were D in you had a bus was driven
but when I say ambitious I was only wanting to perfect be great myself I
wasn't in competition with anybody I wasn't trying to be better than that
person or I just wanted to be the best that I could be uh and so I I didn't but
after I discovered the secret and my whole life turned completely around
360 I looked back on my life and I saw that every single thing in my life was
leading to this really yes because just even things like I worked in The
Newsroom for in a radio station and um and so when the secret went crazy like
crazy and I just had every news media Outlet in the world in every country
coming at us and I did very little and because I knew that what happens what
can happen is that the media will build you up to tear you down wow and I knew
that because I had worked in news and I'd worked in media and so I had seen it
is that why you did very you did Oprah and that was really I did Oprah and I
did Oprah because I knew Oprah lived this MH and you see I didn't want to go
onto anything where I didn't want to have arguments with people because I'm
not trying to convince you to do anything I discovered something and I
wanted to share it and if you find that it's incredible for your life then I'm
so happy if you if you don't want to hear about it that's fine too so I
didn't want to get into situations with people where they're like oh this is you
know as if the mind can do this this is all there is his mind you know they
didn't even realize like it'll be hundreds of years before before it is
realized what the substance of the universe really really is but right now
we can use this knowledge to completely create the life we deserve to have and
what you were talking about about being this great greatness I think some of us
were born to do something like this but then there are others and I think about
this with my mother right my mother stopped working when she was like 19
years old and she had five children but my mother achieved greatness because she
was an incredible mother and she was an incredible wife and so her her level was
different and I think you know what you did or what I did not everybody is
prepared to take the risks you took risks yes you can't you can't do it
without the risks yeah you right I took huge risks I I put everything on the
line I would every I would have been on the streets you know I I I like
mortgaged overdraft I did everything possible to get the secret out to the
world and I I didn't care honestly what happened to me after it I just wanted to
get it to the world and that was it and and so you you have to have there's
something within you that really pushes you but then there are
people that they might love what they do you know and they don't want to be
running a company they don't want the stress of that yeah they love their
family they want to spend as much time with their family as possible they just
really love to have a better house or you know um and I think and and I think
honestly if you can live your life and you can bring joy to other people just
by your presence just by your presence if you can do that oh my God you've
lived the greatest life possible you really have
because every single person their true nature is joy and their true nature is
love and that's why you feel so good when you're in Joy right right yeah and
that's why we feel so good when we're loving and being loving is smiling to
that person like you did you know I'm opening the doors and I'm in a small yes
absolutely yeah I mean you talking about kindness this is the next thing on top
of here you just said kindness we're we're in sync right here kindness
kindness changes everything want to see your life change for the better today
then be the kindest you've ever been to every person you encounter when you do
that it's hard to have a bad day or you can't it's not possible that's why just
do that you know like I'm like just do do that one thing and you don't take my
word for it try it for yourself and just see for yourself what happens yeah I
remember this person contacted us and really early on and he said he decided
that he was just going to be happy I think it was a hairdresser and he said
I'm just going I'm making a decision that I am going to be happy and I'm
going to see what happens and it was incredible what happened in his life got
his own hairdressing salon and all of just because he made a decision to be
happy what what's on the happiness frequency everything that you want to
make you happy absolutely you know so I'm I'm curious about after the secret
came out and every news Outlet in the world wanted to hear more about what you
were creating you do
Oprah which that you know blows up everywhere you
you're time 100 most influential person in the world you're selling tens of
millions of copies within the first few years this message was everywhere you
could not go into a store without seeing this book he true how did you navigate
the success and not let that weight or pressure break you H because some people
want the impact this the success but then they're not ready for it how did
you prepare yourself and was that a conscious decision not to do a lot of
interviews after that to not be picked at or try to be pulled down in certain
ways like that was a conscious decision it was
um but like did you feel ready for the success did you feel prepared or or did
you feel like this was a little overwhelming I never felt it was
me what do you mean I just I just it was the message that was the star
interesting and I never felt that it was me like even writing the secret book I
absolutely knew that and making the documentary like it was a miracle what
happened making that documentary the way everything that we ever needed just
landed right at our feet I it was it was so spectacular it was the most
incredible thing I've ever seen and I just knew the universe you know just
putting that in that most affectionate way I knew the universe was with us
and so and writing the book it was the same
thing like I felt such a rush uh in writing that book I couldn't
write it fast enough all the things that I'd learned and practiced and I wanted
to share with people um but you know I had like I got a burst blood vessel in
one of my eyes I had my feet got all cracked um all the skin on my feet got
cracked from high frequency in writing that book really yeah cuz you said you
were telling me before off camera that you wrote this book in Santa Monica in
an apartment just a few miles from here with my laptop on my lap with your
laptop on your lap on a small little apartment were you on the beach were you
off the beach were you what was your environment like off the beach it was a
very simple little corporate apartment um the documentary had been released and
and I was writing the book and I had I it was it was just the perfect situation
I knew exactly everything that I wanted to say it was really just rushing
through me and uh and because of the frequency you had like you know so you
had your body was feeling my body really yeah that is f and after it I wasn't
wipe out you were like exhausted you were like energetically drained
energetically drained yeah and so then with each then with with each book that
I wrote was I tried to manage that more you know that I that I wasn't so wiped
out now I could write a book and not at all right yeah but were you a writer
before this did you no do you know what this was this your first book The Secret
is your first book and you sold 34 million copies that is crazy I know
right I remember when um beyond words uh contacted me and said we want you to do
the sacred book well I knew there'd be secret book cuz i' had seen it in
bookstores in my mind all around the world wow in the front window I'd seen
it I didn't know what it looked like but I could feel the book and and I said yes
like I knew there'd be a secret book and and I said okay and they said and we
want you to write it and I said I'm not a writer and guess what I heard those
words and I'm like yes I am m you it yeah because I'm not a writer
means that you will not be a writer right and I'm like yes I am because I
can do anything that I put my mind to you any
everybody can do anything they put their mind to and so I and and so I wrote and
I I was very specific I wanted to write to people as though was just talking to
them mhm M and not you know any kind of incredible huge words or anything like
that I just I wanted it to be super super simple because law of attraction
was a hard concept to get your head around at that time it's a lot it's
understood a little more these days but and this is this is what I love about
what you did because you first said you saw it in your mind and you felt the
book in book stor you felt it so you were connecting the thought the
visualization of what you saw in your mind and the feeling you had those two
things connected it sounded like and this is where I think some people get
wrong about the law of attraction or the secret is they you know you had those
two things the thoughts and the feelings as if it was already happening but then
you took action you wrote the book you didn't just say it's magically going to
like be in bookstores there had to be some action somewhere whether it was you
or someone else yeah but I had the publisher come to me to say you to write
the book so I attracted that but do you know what with that book I honestly feel
like I was just a stenographer you were just downloading
and that's why in answer to your question how did I manage all of that
honestly I never I just felt like I was the luckiest person in the world to be a
part of that Journey but I know without a doubt the universe was just there it
just it this had to come out into the world and it was there to help at every
tone if someone is applying these principles and think they're not drawing
in the person the the publisher the the the right person to hire the thing yeah
to support them in manifesting what they want does that mean they're not ready
for that thing to come out into the world is it not the right timing you
know cuz you could have wanted this 20 years prior but it didn't happen then it
happened at the moment you were ready for it it sounds like yeah so how can
people let go of their frustration of really wanting something to happen now
versus knowing when it's the right timing for it to come into the world
right so the difference is just simply belief so you have to believe you have
it already so can if I explain what my belief was like
my belief was a notch above believing it had already happened mine was knowing it
had already happened what's the difference between believing and knowing
because one because knowing is the highest you can get and it's actually
knowing is beyond the mind but believe but you can manifest with believing too
so I didn't just believe this had happened I absolutely knew it wow and I
knew knew it and I knew what it was going to do and
I I how can I um it
felt I knew it so much that I felt like I had already lived the entire journey
of making it and it coming out and that I had such a great time that I was
reliving it oh that's pretty cool that's how
that's how it felt this is this is fascinating what you just said this
unlocked something for me um the difference between believing and knowing
yeah I grew up in a religion uh the religion of Christian Science which is
all about healing and applying healing thinking and applying the mind to the
material world but really there is no Material World anyways but one of the
things that I would hear over and over again when I
felt like something was off in my life or I felt like I was feeling a pain or
something physical in my body was off out of
alignment we would have Christian Science practitioners spiritual
practitioners that would give us um prescriptions but they weren't
medications they were spiritual medications essentially right gotcha and
it was and they were always called truths and they would always say know
the truth they didn't say believe this they would say know the truth and when
you know it it is true and it it is a reality and it was hard it was confusing
as a kid because I was like well but I feel this thing and there's this pain
but how can I know it but what I'm hearing you say is believing can can
really help you in a big way but knowing is what unlocks manifestation into
another level yeah knowing it's just done I mean there have been times for
everybody when they knew something they AB absolutely knew
something was going to happen before it happened so let's say
and how do they know that yes how did you know that and you don't know how you
knew it it's like an Intuition or a feeling or something yeah right you knew
it like somebody's having a baby and they don't know what sex it is but
you're like oh I know it's a girl I absolutely know it's a girl and
everybody thinks you're just guessing like everybody else no you're like I
know it I know it's a girl or there's a spinning wheel and you all of a sudden
you're like I know it's going to be number 11 I know it and it's number 11
but you knew it absolutely knew it how does that happen yeah because it's above
the mind it's above the mind so you you you
definitely know it so you that's crazy how so you don't have to be at knowing
to manifest you just have to be at believing and might I just say that you
you just have to be more believing than not believing so that person who's not
you know they're waiting and it hasn't manifested and they're here and here the
difference is they're not believing it is done
already the moment they're believing more that it's done than it
hasn't arrived it'll manifest how do we stay
patient and see well if you need patience you're not believing it's
manifested right interesting so is there can you give me
so you you're done for right there so give me an examp give me an example if
there's an example in your life personally or something you've seen from
a friend or someone who's read the book where they were like man I've been
waiting for this to happen it's been 10 years I feel like it's supposed to
happen I'm believing it's happening but I haven't got the thing that I've wanted
yet or haven't it hasn't happened yet hasn't come to fruition yet right should
I have more patience in manifesting should I expect it's already here now
what should I do okay so I've definitely had some people do that one in
particular she was wanting to have a baby and get pregnant she had visualized
visualized visualized visualized getting pregnant she had been doing affirmations
she'd been Greatful that she was getting pregnant and she's like still I'm not
pregnant now I just and I think she'd even done
IVF and that hadn't worked and so she'd up yeah
and and I just knew that for a woman who can't get pregnant getting pregnant has
a lot of resistance around it because when you've not been able to get
pregnant get pregnant get pregnant there's like real resistance around that
getting pregnant and so much so that the resistance was outweighing her V her
resistance that I'm not pregnant yet was outweighing her visualization all the
other things so I said to her I don't want you to visualize that I want you to
visualize holding the baby because that's the outcome right MH that's the
end result you don't want to be prant for the rest of your life right right
you want to be holding the baby so I said to her I want you to visualize
holding the baby I want you to hear the baby I want you to feel it in your arms
wow pregnant in a month wow and I've done that with a lot of women this is
you know even you saying that I'm not a woman but it's like imagining you know a
a child coming into my life from my partner and hearing the baby having the
baby against my chest being born you know feeling the heartbeat of the child
next to my heartbeat having this beautiful moment like I'm already seeing
the future happening now yeah by experiencing that feeling as opposed to
like I'm feeling it know I mean you me be careful you me to be careful know do
you want to have children now I do at the right time yes at the right time
okay yeah but it's like when you feel that and you really imagine and
experience that feeling it's as if it's already happened
or it's happening yeah and you're feeling it and there for your allowing
that to come to you and you're allowing that as opposed to resisting it Y where
this person a friend of yours was like I really want this come here come here but
but like it's not here yet I'm so many disappointments you see you know women I
know go through a lot who can't get pregnant so there's just one
disappointment after another or maybe they got pregnant and then they
miscarried and um somebody else they're two two Australian girls girls uh
volleyball players and they playing in the Olympic Games and these girls were
just so brilliant so clever they they were not at all the favorites far from
the favorites they were way down the way down the chart and what they did was
they filled their entire apartment with gold
Awards they got everything gold leading up to the Olympic Games and they had
Gold Everywhere they bought all these Awards everywhere
do you think anyone could have beaten them at the Olympic Games wow no chance
wow the ball was going to bounce in the perfect way they were going to be in the
exact perfect position you see
because so when we talk about action the kind of action that you have
to do for when you have used the mind that action is
effortless that's why writing the secret book was
effortless it's effortless but if you go out into the world and you're like make
this happen and you want to do all the action oh you're going to struggle oh
it's going to be hard you might get there eventually but it's going to be
harder than it could be and you'll get there eventually but you only get there
eventually because you think it gradually bit by bit that's the only
reason you get there because you had the thought oh things are getting better I'm
star starting to see success is coming you're having these little thoughts
along way that's the only reason you make it you cannot do anything in the
world without thought nothing you show me one invention that's happened without
thought right you have to imagine it first right you have to come up with it
in your mind and then you alchemize and created in the world exactly
mhm so for those first yes so for those girls you see they lived with that gold
and saw themselves winning gold and so that that and they I bet if you ask them
they would say winning that gold was effortless for them that they just got
the right breaks that everything happened the right way for them is it w
wow and you know Sports people are so amazing at visualizing winning right and
then it it does look effortless for them because they're in the flow yeah they're
not working hard they're working they're they effortlessly moving to their
desired result right uh how do we navigate the ego when
when let's say when success comes our way you know whether these girls who win
the gold medal uh you know an athlete you selling millions of copies in the
first year or months or whatever and getting all these opportunities how do
we navigate the ego from not consuming us but success actually allowing us to
multiply into greater success yeah really good question how did you
navigate that you just you certainly have to remain humble you know and um
humble and grateful and I think we've all seen people that have had success
and then just Rob just find themselves in the most awful drama of you know
terrible situation where they made one mistake and just everything you know the
whole World turned against them so you have to remain humble otherwise truly
just you're in for a really rough ride and you could visualize all the most
wonderful things and you could you know achieve all of that and manifest all of
that but if you don't remain humble because if if you look at it anyway you
never did it on your own like even if you just look it physically in the world
I mean I knew we had the universe behind us I felt it with every step that we
took but but even I've got the most incredible team I mean we did intentions
meetings at 11:00 every morning and where we intended and in
those meetings we were celebrating the secret having swept the world and having
become a global phenomenon that's what we did in those
meetings before the book came out oh yeah but we danced and we celebrated
that that's what you've got to do you had the feel of joy and excitement and
gra was already done wow yeah if you want to go
traveling if you want to see the world and you're like I don't have any money
how will I ever go traveling straight away Law of Attraction says okay done
you know I don't have any money or but if you want to go travel and get out
your suitcase this is the funniest thing you said this cuz my my fiance um Martha
she's Mexican they grew up in this Mexican traditions and over the holidays
I don't know this never happened to me growing up in America but over the
holidays they would do this thing around Christmas and New Year's her family and
I believe this is a Mexican tradition uh but her family they'll all get out
suitcases during the holidays and say where do you want to go next year and
then we leave the house with the suitcase and say we're going to
Japan we walk out and we skip down the sidewalk with a suitcase me and Martha
did and then each family member does this and tells the experience of where
they went I'm going here and this is where it's going to feel like and the
experience and it's this joy and excitement talking about the trip and we
take the suitcase out the door and then we come back and we tell the
experience and we said this this last year Japan and now I I we literally just
booked our trip to Japan happened happening in like a month oh I was going
to say you are going to Japan yeah it's happening no it's happening we already
booked it but but even though I didn't know when or how at the end of last year
we set an intention he did we celebrated it we talked about it and we allowed the
universe to open up to see when is this possible how is this possible what are
we going to be doing right and things are coming to us yeah in a way that's
going to create a beautiful magical experience oh was so fantastic but we
took our job I don't know if this is like a Mexican TR but so literally what
you said they do every year is really cool because it sets that intention yes
it's acting as if is what it is it's acting as if you
already have it like I remember there was this lady who wanted to be in the
audience on the Oprah show when I was going to be on there and the audience
was completely full it was it was booked out but what she did was she got her
suitcase out and she got a flight to Chicago I mean this is somebody really
really game and she gets a call a a message on her phone when she lands into
Chicago to say come to the studio we've got a seat for you yeah but she had
already intended it and went there she had to get a seat you know this is
fascinating cuz she really like she really believed in you so acting as if
like I I know I wrote this in one of my books but there was uh there was this
woman who wanted a horse she couldn't afford to buy a horse so she went and
bought the bridal H and she put the Bridal on her table in front of her and
looked at that Bridal every day is that is that the saddle is the Bridle I think
it's the I'm not a really great mouth piece yeah the the straps that go around
the head kind of thing I think and within a couple of weeks she threw the
actually the most extraordinary set of circumstances she got offered a horse oh
my goodness yeah through someone through someone through someone through someone
and she got off at a horse but of course she was acting as if she already had the
horse she bought the bridal so and I always say the universe abor a vacuum
say again the universe abor a vacuum so abor is a b h o RS abor the universe
dislikes a vacuum the the universe can't tolerate a vacuum it has to fill it so
if you create a vacuum which is why like for all the people who want to meet
their perfect partner and you go to their house and their wardrobe is
totally full and there's no room for their partner's clothes right and they
sleep in the middle of the bed whereas their partner sleep right so you got to
create a vacuum and so you got to sleep on that side of the bed so the partner
sleeps there you got to make room in the bathroom you need to make room in the
closet you've created a vacuum then the then
the person can come into your life that's so this so funny you say this as
well because Martha uh my fiance she when she was single before we started
dating she bought herself uh a home and she was going to buy a clean- siiz bed
but her coach was like well are you trying to you know what type of man are
you trying to attract she's like well you know a king you know I'm trying to
attract my king in my life right not saying that I'm a king or whatever but
like I'm trying to attract and she was saying explain what do he what's he look
like is he is he short is he tall is he you know and she was like nah he's like
6'4 and uh you know he's an athlete and he's he needs space right and her coach
was like well you can't buy a a clean or full-size bed if you want to attract a
bigger guy you need space like you said you need to have a big so for a number
of months she had this big king-sized and she's tiny she's like 5'2 right so
she was but she was sleeping on this big bed she's like ah is this weird because
I have this extra space but she allowed room for me to be there as well how
amazing and you hear this with with your life is full of these
stories so good and you hear a lot of like I'm assuming you know mothers to be
they create rooms with a crib and they have the room ready for the that's like
creating a vacuum right for the baby to them good observation a lot of mothers
do this nesting or whatever might be great observation it's another example
of like okay I'm struggling getting pregnant but let me just intend and set
the intention that there will be a child here yes but I got to do it before it
comes and you know what people might say some people might say oh no you might
jinx it come
on come on are you going to believe that thought yes don't believe that thought
don't believe any thought that you don't deserve things you deserve everything
you want everybody deserves everything they want and there's no shortage yes
how do we this is a this is a card you talk about with negative thoughts how do
we when we want something how do we learn to navigate the negative thoughts
that come and go because not all of us you know are going to be able to have
perfect positive thoughts all day long especially when there's challenge or
breakdown or maybe some Financial strain or or or pain physical pain yeah so how
do we navigate negative thoughts based on what you've talked about the secret
really is to become more aware of what's going on in your mind and and you might
to begin with just become aware of your feelings you know and all of a sudden
you're not feeling very good and I I promise you if you're not feeling very
good it's because you've had a whole lot of negative thoughts that you've been
giving your attention to too and that's why you don't feel very good and so you
need to be more become more aware and so um I just had somebody yesterday say to
me that they Sparrow downward in in a particular situation and then they kind
of came out of it and they were like why did I do that why did I let all of those
thoughts get me down like that and I and I said to her but you know what you what
you did is amazing because you saw it you know even if you went down with it
you still saw it you came out of it and you're like look what happened that was
all negative thoughts so but you caught it you aware of it C it and so for me
like really early on um you know I would only realize a couple of days later or
but the more that you do it the faster that you catch it and a negative thought
feels so alien now now or negative thoughts feel so alien that they're
foreign to you now yeah well most people it's negative thoughts are so familiar
because that's all they know is negative thinking you get in a a trap or in a
cycle of thinking you wake up negative you wake up frustrated resentful and you
follow through and you go to sleep frustrated and negative thinking and it
is a familiar feeling I've been there in the past it just becomes a familiarity
of everything is against me the world is against me this person is trying to take
advantage of me negative negative negative yeah and it can feel like
you're in a trap or you're stuck it can feel extremely hard to get out of it but
the more we practice what I'm hearing you say the more we practice catching it
and being aware of it yeah and practicing having replacing it with a
different type of positive empowering thought that's right then the more
familiar that will start to feel as well that's right it's just a pattern that
that is the mind's just a program yes you know it's just a program so it's
programmed right now based on what each of us have been putting into it and you
know I lived like decades with you know caught up in dramas I mean I'm really
grateful to the universe that it didn't wipe me out you know because oh my gosh
you know if I think about different negative you know things that I get
caught up in and talking about and you know gossip like for example is just
such a Negative awful thing it's a low frequency energy very low frequency yeah
really low frequency so gossip yeah it's one of the lowest frequencies I feel
like right sure is yeah yeah sure is it doesn't Empower you to attract what you
want no and and you know for the Law of Attraction like there's only one you
there's only one so it is responding to your thoughts to your your words but
there's only one there's only you and so whatever you say about another you're
bringing to you can you say one more time okay so for Law of Attraction it's
responding to thoughts right and so your thoughts and you can't think a thought
for me and I can't think of thought for you right so law of attraction is just
responding to my thoughts and it's responding to your thoughts and so what
what it is doing is if I am talking about oh she's you know she's this I saw
her do this I saw her you know and she did that to somebody else you know too
and bl this big story you're saying all of that all that blame and Laur
attractions giving it to you oh man yeah we can't think we can't think badly of
somebody else without it affecting us it will come back to us us guaranteed we're
just not making the connection you know and so we attract blame so we're bla you
know we're blaming somebody and then we going to work the next day and we've
made the biggest mistake of all time in our job and we're hauled into the office
and the boss is going right through us and we don't make the
connection wow
yeah yeah yeah no kind thoughts kind yes to others do it do it for you yes you
know because what we think about others we're we're attracting to us as well
yeah it's hard but the universe can't make that distinction right the
difference no and there's only one for law of in truth there's only one too
overall they don't we feel very individual but there is there there is
only one but for Law of Attraction there's only one and if you think about
it it has to be that way that it's just responding here to these thoughts to
these thoughts it's responding to these thoughts to these thoughts it's
responding to these thoughts it's none of it's personal right not personal at
all it's not saying oh I know you don't really want that I'm not going to give
it to you but if you're speaking you we're talking about the secret
manifestation cards uh by Ronda burn make sure you guys get a few of these
decks there's tons of different decks out there in the world that people make
but I don't think I've seen decks a deck this beautifully done the design the
Artistry I know Nick was heavily involved in this on your team amazing
team amazing team it's beautiful I mean I just want to like frame these they're
like pieces of art so they are powerful I think it's 65 cards 65 cards and a
16-page booklet that is in this that will give you in a moment you pick it up
you take up the first one you you Shuffle the deck you pick it out you're
going to get inspiration and by law of attraction like if you wake up in the
morning and wake up in the morning and draw a card by law of attraction that is
the most important message you need to hear In This Moment let's go right let's
go I'm excited I want people to get this the man the secret manifestation cards
oh thank make sure you get this um I've got a couple final questions for you but
people can get this at the secret.tv I believe it's the main page where they
can get it um everywhere on social media the secret uh or the secret 365 is also
on Instagram but pretty much everywhere the secret on social media and the
secret.tv where you can sign up for the newsletter get information about all the
books that Rhonda has the last book The Greatest Secret is incredible we talked
about that in our previous interview it's incredible um I have I have a
couple final questions for you Ronda but I'm I just wanted to say before I ask
them I'm so grateful that we're doing this in person there's an amazing energy
about you that is that is magnificent in itself the energy the
wisdom the passion and the joy you bring I'm so glad we're doing this in person I
hope we can do this every year or in the future again and just continue to have
these conversations cuz I feel like there's an amazing flow here so I'm very
love every second I'm very grateful you're here and I know people love
hearing from you um so I'm so glad that we're doing this uh this is a question
that I'm curious about because you've done so much and you've impacted tens of
millions of lives what do you see is next for you you know beyond this do you
have a vision of what you're trying to create in the future or is it more you
stay very present and you allow things to come to you at this stage where are
you at currently in your life um certainly uh certainly I allow myself to
be guided and I don't kind of make up my mind there's a book I've been thinking
about for a while and um for the last year and I've been doing some research
on that so that might happen we've been doing
apps um and so I've been enjoying doing that with the team as well my I just all
I want to do is keep keep creating in the hope that to
reach more people and to help more people have better lives yes that's and
so I don't even mind what shape or form that comes in um just as long as it just
as long as it reaches people yes yeah and it just I mean that's just what you
live for and I'm sure that is the case for you too right when you get that
feedback is just absolutely amazing and then you're like I knew this is what I
was meant to do yes and isn't it a total feeling of serving is a real feeling of
that is it not you know isn't it yeah that's where we get a lot of fulfillment
when we're in service of course yeah yeah that's beautiful I'm so excited
well we're here to support you spread the message whenever you have the next
book or project so we're here to do more of this I asked you this question the
last time it's what I asked everyone towards the end of my interviews and I'm
curious if it's the same or if it's different and we'll have to go back and
hear the previous interview to see where it was at but this question is called
the three truths so imagine a hypothetical scenario you get to live as
long as you want in this physical world but it's the last day for you somewhere
in the future it's the last day and you get to continue to create all the books
the apps the projects or whatever you manifest in the future it all comes true
as it has for you in the last you know 15 20 years years but for whatever
reason in this hypothetical scenario you have to take everything with you so no
one has access to the manifestation cards they don't have access to the
movie The Secret the book or anything you've ever created hypothetical
scenario and all you get to leave behind are three lessons that you've learned
and everything else is gone what would be those three lessons or what I like to
call three truths for you well to definitely to love
everything and everyone
um to be grateful for every moment
and to be the
joy I love that I'll I'll make sure to link up the previous interiew so we can
see what you said before it's probably simar so people can watch that um I have
one final question Rhonda again I want to acknowledge you for your joy for your
light for your creativity for showing up for yourself fully for living a
harmonious life internally so that you're able to create effortlessly in
the world and be of service it's a beautiful thing to watch and um again I
hope we get to do many more of these in the future but I acknowledge you for the
gift that you are and I'm very grateful for the impact you've made on so many
lives so thank you for being here thank you so much of course my final question
question is what is your definition of greatness
humility that's what I would say yeah because I think if you humble
then you've definitely got greatness inside you
there is all the money that everybody needs and wants waiting there for them
and there's only one reason it's not in their lives and that's because they're
stopping it from coming into their really how are we stopping it by
thinking we don't have enough by thinking we don't deserve it being
programmed the way you were that my family didn't have very much kind of BN
on the wrong side of the tracks kind of thing or to believe that we only get
money through our job law of retraction can only do what you believe we are
unlimited beings we limit ourselves down to nothing what else about money do you
feel like people are missing when it comes to manifesting in the Law of
Attraction money [Music]
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